I can't even believe you are that dumb. Of course they don't have to sell the shares they OWN. But the shares that have to be vested/milestones achieved are NOT part of their net worth. Ergo that tranche of stocks to hit the T mark is not part of his current net worth, and may never be if he doesn't hit the milestones, or if tesla tanks in the interim. SpaceX on the other hand has government contracts to back its value. You really aren't the brightest star.

And I think the problem is we will never know. Waymo will be allowed to keep the video it surely has secret, and will never even be seen by CalTrans or NHTSA. Transparency is what should be happening. Not closed door meetings at waymo. All these self drive programs are granted way too much leniency in this area. gm got caught basically because there was 3rd part video of their human dragging scene. And it did not turn out well. As I recall gm tried to bury it. And these large corps are usually very good at burying, google I imagine could make it disappear.

Pretty clear self drive makes some significant mistakes still. TMZ initially reported and was picked up by the national news. https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/01... Pretty crazy the AI decided to drive thru what was an active crime scene. With passenger Other stories about passengers being held captive while the car drives around in circles. https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07... and I thought another circled around a McD's parking lot.

He's not going to get all the incentives, well unless they rig it. He will need to sell a piece of spacex on the market to cross that magic threshold. Now who is stupid?

He really needs to try harder if he wants to even come close to trump. He should at least add a meme crypto coin, some hats, maybe MGBGA hats, a line of booze, maybe Irish whisky or beer, and I'm sure trump had others, just can't remember them off the top of my head.

I think pretty obvious to all but the stupid, spacex is there to help elon be The First Trillionaire.

Spacex is private. Elon runs it. Tesla similar, although public Elop owns such a large percentage along with trusted cronies owns enough he gets his way. I don't own amazon, but I do own share in companies and I vote just like in elections. Often not the way the board of directors recommends.

died. Micro-strategy I just read is now saying they may have to sell some btc to pay dividends and interest. If that stock isn't a pyramid scheme, I don't know what is. They sell common shares to buy btc to inflate btc price. Problem is that means more dividends to be paid, and the dilution of their current btc holdings from selling shares. I think China is smart enough to know when this sucker crashes, its going to be monumental. And they'd rather not have their citizens holding the bag.

Time flies, 20 is only 2005, which was full swing internet. I'd say 40, well really close to 50. I was using email in school on arpa in 78 or 79. Commercial beginnings were mid-80's I think. I worked for a defense contractor early 80's and the project managers were communicating with DoD via arpa email. Mere worker bees like me were using email, but I think all internal if I remember right, on a VAX/VMS system, and near the end of my stint there, Sun's. So long ago a bit foggy. I do recall in 92 submitting an application for a domain name for a company I joined. It was much more of a bar to jump to get a domain name back then. Basically you had to justify why and promise all sorts of things. Now you don't even give your name.

I think many have sold them off. Ford looks like they still own a /8(19.xxx), but gm does not anymore. The "big" guys these days are the cloud providers, although quite fractured. ATT & verizon as you'd expect have big chunks as well.

Perhaps if you work for someone. I've had several things done over the past few years. A water heater for 3500, probably cost 600, so around 3 grand for 3 man hours of labor. The guy worked as a contractor. I asked him if he ever moonlit, as I thought he did good work and would want to bypass the corporate take if he could. He was completely uninterested. Completely. I think he was making very good buck as he had his own tools including a cool little device to crimp copper fittings. I also had a new AC put in. I did a little research, looked like around 4 grand in materials for the system. My price, 13.5K. Probably 20 man hours between the group. Not quite as good as the plumber wage. These were some guys that worked for themselves, and their price was lower than a "big firm". So I see a big disconnect between that average wage and what I've been paying.

OK Komrade. Pretty clear where your loyalties lie.

a low budget sci-fi movie. Attack of the black radioactive fungi. Or Escaped from Chernobyl.

And I repeat, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The alliance was happy to have Russia throwing bodies on Germany's eastern front. Immediately after the war, the friendship was over and the winners were in chop up mode. The west got western Germany & Russia got eastern. Which would you want to have lived in after the war?