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Comment Re:kewl story bro, but these drugs aren't for them (Score 1) 127

Those techniques won't work on overeating because you need to eat to live, you can't just stop cold turkey like with smoking.

Plenty of people quit without going cold turkey. Never mind the fact that smoking is far more addictive than junk food thus is harder to beat then giving up junk food.

Overweight people have it constantly hammered into them that they're endangering their lives, it's not a messaging issue.

As I said before, we've never tried anywhere near as hard with our obesity messaging as we did with smoking. To dismiss a solution that worked in another context that we haven't even attempted in this one is foolish.

And if it's so bad, why is having the meds such a problem? Their side effects are minimal and they work better than diet and exercise and lifestyle change. Most of the arguments seem to be based on some weird puritanism, where only the "worthy" should be able to weigh less.

Because the bad lifestyle choices that cause obesity negatively effect the body beyond obesity. Refined sugar is still bad for you even if you're a healthy weight. Ultra processed foods are still bad for you even if you're a healthy weight. Exercise is still good for you even if you're a healthy weight. Eating lots of produce is still good for you even if you're a healthy weight.

Comment Re:Done. (Score 2) 92

3) It was before, and like Hamas, it is so deeply rooted in society that you have to kill the population, e.g. commit genocide to get it out.

Or Israel could stop regularly provoking such groups so the long healing process could actually begin. That's probably a long shot though unless we force them by threatening their aid but I don't see either political party doing that despite them avidly committing war crimes.

Comment Re:kewl story bro, but these drugs aren't for them (Score 1) 127

Almost half the US population used to smoke. Simply telling them smoking was bad for them wasn't enough to mostly end the practice though. We had to beat it into them over the course of decades with regular, dramatic, in their face ads telling them how bad their tobacco use is for both them and their children while actively discouraging the practice with high taxes on smokes. We haven't even come close to trying that with obesity yet.

Comment Re:Prove it - like a Rolex for $50 on the corner (Score 1) 127

Also, Ozempic is approx $500/month out of pocket. Who the fuck has that much money, but not the willpower to join a gym and eat better?

Lots of Americans. Obesity might effect the affluent at a lower rate than the poor but their rate of obesity has still gone up dramatically over the last few decades. Being good at earning money != being good at other things.

Comment Re:kewl story bro, but these drugs aren't for them (Score 1) 127

For most (not all) the weight is just a symptom of bad lifestyle choices that will continue to effect their health even after the weight is lost though. Never mind that going by childhood obesity metrics in the US, many of these folks are passing on their bad lifestyles to their kids which means a lifetime of health problems for them as childhood obesity is quite bad for a person's long term health even if the weight is later lost.

Comment Re:It's easier to quit fentanyl than be skinny. (Score 1) 127

The flip side is that we have dramatically more obese people now than we ever had in the past so a lot of these folks shouldn't need medication and really aren't solving problems for themselves that they could and for the sake of their health, should. It's even trickling down to kids, we're currently raising the fattest generation of Americans ever.

These drugs are great for folks like yourself who can't lose the weight on their own but they're enabling a lot of bad lifestyle choices for a ton of others.

Comment Re:kewl story bro, but these drugs aren't for them (Score 2) 127

Where are the constant awareness commercials telling people they are endangering the lives of themselves and their children with their lifestyle habits? Where's the heavy taxes on the stuff we know is killing Americans. We have never taken the issue of obesity as seriously as the issue of smoking in this country.

Comment Re:kewl story bro, but these drugs aren't for them (Score 2, Insightful) 127

Well no, the best option would be doing more to encourage people to live in a healthy manor. We spent a ridiculous amount of effort to stop smoking in this country but have done almost nothing in regards to obesity which is killing far more people than smoking ever did.

Comment Pointless (Score 1) 35

How much harder would it be to just call the animal shelters within range of where the pet might be? Or they could have just put a chip in their pet or use old school tags on a collar. This doesn't at all seem like the big deal the person in the article is trying to make it out to be.

Maybe it would be nice for pet birds I guess?

Comment Next step, laser defence (Score 1) 314

We're not quite there yet but we're pretty close to wide spread practical laser defense systems to shoot down missiles. I know the Israeli's added laser systems to their Iron Dome for instance. These systems will be far more accurate than current systems and should be able to be used at a fraction of the cost of even these missiles

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