Comment Re:They're grasping. (Score 1) 93
So the issue is we lack proper refineries to process our own domestic crude oil - if only there was a way to fix that...
So the issue is we lack proper refineries to process our own domestic crude oil - if only there was a way to fix that...
Workers? These places employ a skeleton crew to change out hardware when it breaks. I doubt the payroll exceeds a dozen.
Who said anything about "workers" being a significant contributor to the local economy?
They don't generate revenue
Are you serious? Regarding Private Datacenters (Think AWS or Azure, etc.) They build a multi-million dollar building, stuff it full of tens of millions of dollars of equipment (servers), and they do all this as a non-profit entity? That's what you think?
Here's a thought - perhaps they spend tens of millions of dollars to generate hundreds of millions of dollars, and they then pay income taxes on the spread between those two numbers, less operating expenses (salaries, electricity, water, etc)
FFS, you really think private datacenters are non-profit operations?
As noted originally, this particular datacenter is a government facility, so this particular datacenter doesn't generate tax revenue, but I am speaking broadly (note the reference to "private data centers").
So a 7% layoff, Take the offer or KEEP YOUR JOB.... A little nicer than meta, but again profit trumps people
FTFY
This seems nice, but it really works to push out older employees. Probably will save a lot of money on healthcare.
Wow, how insightful of you - yes, a buy-out package limited to people whose age plus years of service at MS add up to 70 or greater by definition limits the offer to "older employees," since it's mathematically impossible for anyone under about 45 or 50 years of age to qualify (45 year-old employee would need 25 years "on the job" to qualify, not impossible, but unlikely to find a younger employee than that with sufficient time on the job...
Anyway, for the sake of the microsofties who are eligible, I hope they get a better offer than I did.
If it's not a good deal, they won't take it, just as you didn't take it when Google offered you your voluntary buy-out package...
"available to U.S. workers at the senior director level and below whose years of employment and age add up to 70 or higher."
(Microsoft HR) "Hello. The Boomer Club representing the senior executive bone-us profit margins recently took notice to the fact you've been here 20 years. Since you were 31 years old in fact. Time to retire."
(Senior Director) "Wait, but I'm not ready to retire! And I'm not eligible for retirement benefits even from your own 401k match until 203.."
(Microsoft HR) "Close enough. Time to Alt-Del your active employment status. Don't let the door Ctrl you on the way out."
Cute how you skip over the "voluntary" part of the buy-out...
Microsoft plans to offer voluntary buyouts for the first time.
Literally the first line in TFS, as well as in the headline for the story, but still somehow you missed it... Interesting.
I suspect the employees offered the voluntary buy-out have a fair bit of company stock, likely collected over their 20+ years in the company.
If the deal isn't appealing to them, they don't have to volunteer to accept it...
Stop the drama - they are offering buy-outs to older, more expensive employees. NO ONE IS BEING FORCED OUT. You do understand the concept of "voluntary buy-out", don't you?
To be eligible you'd need, say, 25 years on the job and be 45 years old, to make the magic "70" number for age + years of service.
There isn't a shortage of water in Michigan.
And then we get this: " Last month, Township attorney Douglas Winters told the Board of Trustees that building hosting the data center would make Ypsilanti Township a "high value target." He pointed to the recent bombing of Gulf Coast data centers by Iran as evidence. "
They're grasping.
Exactly - The Gulf Coast data centers that were bombed were in the middle east - are they really concerned that Iran will attack the data center in Michigan? Or are they afraid it will be a target when Canada finally decided to bite the hand that feeds them and launch an all-out assault on the US?
They are grasping for reasons to oppose the datacenter.
Its a quarter million square feet facility, it really isn't that big - they are talking about a facility in Utah that will have up to 2 million square feet of datacenter floor space.
Datacenters don't contribute to communities financially the way home or even factories do.
Uh, private datacenters pay a WHOLE LOT OF TAXES relative to the load they place on the local schools, hospitals, police/fire/first responders and roadways.
In this very particular case, being a federal facility, the numbers are different, but your comment was more general than just this one facility...
In February, UofM's Steven Ceccio told the University of Michigan Record that the facility would consume 500,000 gallons of water per day
OK, what does that mean "consume" - if the facility takes in 500,000 gallons of water a day, how much is returned to the sewage system? None? Most of it?
Just a quick followup: I've also talked to a number of Trump supporters who blithely dismiss his rampant corruption, saying they don't really care because it doesn't affect them. I think they're facially wrong on this, but the impacts are often subtle and indirect. The example of island nation power generation, though, demonstrates what happens if you allow corruption to be endemic: People are paying 50 cents per kWh rather than 10 cents, and the only reason is corruption. And these aren't, by and large, people who don't care about 35 cents/kWh difference. That's a lot of money to them.
So where is electricity 50 cents a KWHr, is it Texas or California? NY or FL? Not a whole lotta Trump supporters in CA or NY, for example.
Here's a handy chart of electricity costs in the fifty US states
It is absolutely true -- and completely insane -- that basically all island nations are diesel-powered. Most of these countries have sun like 300 days of the year, and while they don't have a lot of available land
Land for solar panels is kind of important.
Lots of island nations rely on roofs for collecting rain water (fresh water is hard on an island, the water surrounding island nations is salt water), and houses on islands are typically much smaller, and have much smaller yards than we are used to in a place like the US.
And the banker class is what is fucking over new nuclear in the rest of the world as well. 2/3 of the cost of recent builds is interest. That's a solvable problem.
"Banker class"? I'm old enough to remember when Three Mile Island happened - remember the carnage, the deaths, the environmental damage when TMI "melted down"? Of course you don't, because it didn't happen - that was a Jane Fonda, Michael Douglas, and Jack Lemon movie called "China Syndrome" tat forever emboldened the environmentalists to organize a "No Nukes" concert and challenge every application to build a nuclear power plant.
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